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    Empowering Grass Roots Methodism - a response to Fruitful Field #apersonalresponse

    Methodism has been engaged in a consultation process regarding its training for ministry across the whole denomination.  I've been engaged in lots of different conversations over the course of the autumn but decided that I wanted to put together my own response.  I have decided to publish that response publically rather than just send it in to an email address and a committee.  I wanted my views in the public arena not least because I offer an alternative reading to the Liverpool Minutes, to the Isaiah passage which refers to the fruitful field and also to the concept of the Ministry of the Whole People of God in the World.

    For those who don't want to read the whole report, I argue that a better strategy to equip the whole people of God for ministry and mission within contemporary society would be to establish four or five local hubs across Methodism rather than accept the vision of one central hub.  These hubs should focus specifically on resourcing the whole of the Methodist Church in the region and do ministerial training as a secondary activity.  My argument is that we will only develop the Church as a learning community if we intentionally foster the informal learning structures which are already actively at work within the local church.

    My recommendations are:

    • Recommendation 1: Empower Methodism at the grass roots to spread Scriptural Holiness throughout the Land
    • Recommendation 2: Encourage the informal learning structures of the local church.
    • Recommendation 3: Develop a co-ordinated but Connexionally-distributed team of skilled, theological educators.
    • Recommendation 4: Do not establish the central hub.
    • Recommendation 5: Create a Connexional Learning Network

    Here is the full response: 

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    Please remember that it is a personal response and does not relate to my role at WSC or to my role as Faith and Order Secretary of the Methodist Church.  I am a Methodist presbyter called to serve the Church and this calling transcends any office or role in which I am currently stationed.

    God bless and Merry Christmas.

    Pete

    • 21 December 2011
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    5 months ago Muriel Sowden responded:
    Muriel Sowden
    You have managed to coherently articulate an excellent response that addresses much that has 'bothered' me about the FF consultation.
    5 months ago David Wood responded:
    Five excellent recommendations which more nearly fit the bill of where we are and where we need to go within the Methodist Church. Like the realistic stress on changing the grass roots culture and putting good resources into training the whole people of God for scriptural holiness.
    Thank you
    5 months ago Rob Weir responded:
    I have to agree with the sentiments about making the primary purpose equipping the whole people of God, and the need for that to be done through a network rather than a central hub. That to be honest seems to fit far better with some of the sentiments expressed at Conference, even by the General Secretary! For example, the "Pastor in every Church" idea implies a significant need to equip lay people to be those pastors; to try and do this through a central hub seems to me to be impractical for many, and maybe even offputting to those who may see the Central Hub as only for those more intellectually inclined, even though their own pastoral abilities might be considerable. Similarly, Small Group Leadership; this is surely far better achieved through a network, and possibly (probably?) via less formal means.

    The focus of so much of my own Ministerial training has been about the importance of context - and the context in this case is the breadth of the whole Methodist Church in the UK. Surely this is far better served by having a network of people who can respond to local needs and requests.

    One other thought: if there is to be a "Central Hub", are we now technologically advanced and adept enough to have it as a Virtual Central Hub? Could that provide enough of the central structure while still leaving people in place in their contexts, where they can best serve God's people?

    5 months ago Trent responded:
    Trent
    http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Transgression
    12/16/05 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

    Regarding the modern holidays of men

    Thus says The Lord God: This world has altogether become a house of harlots, who continually go out to commit fornication with the unclean and revel in their adulteries against God!... Altogether forsaking Him who I had sent to them, that they might turn from their ways and become completely clean!

    None have harkened!...

    They remain shackled to this world and all its fornications of sin!...

    Intermingling honor with dishonor,

    Praise with blasphemy,

    And sin with purity...

    Woe, My children, you have all fallen

    Into the snare of the devil!

    Can you not see, beloved? Open your eyes and read the writing set forth in stone, written by the hand of God!... The Everlasting Law etched with burning fire, blazing as a torch, so you may not stumble in this present darkness, which surrounds you.

    Behold, another Light have I sent to you... The Everlasting Light of the world! And He too do you men of vanities try to cover over, that you might shine in His place... You shall be utterly destroyed and thrown into eternal darkness, forever separated from life and your God!

    Repent therefore! And give Me glory according to the New Covenant, by which you are saved. Call upon My name, by the name of Him who I have given My name. He is The One who shall deliver you from the great and terrible Day of The Lord... And He is The One who shall destroy you, if you will not come. For by Him were you made a vessel unto honor, yet you have all become vessels of dishonor, heaping to yourselves vanities and sin... You shall be crushed and thrown into the fire!

    Now hear My words, all you proud blasphemers...

    Shall you continue to corrupt love?...

    Christ Jesus, YahuShua The Lord and Savior, is Love Everlasting!

    Give Him all honor and glory, forever and ever! For He has glorified My name by His sacrifice on the cross, and I have glorified Him by My name which stands forever. He is the ensign, the waving banner for all generations!... Call on His name, yea shout it to the heavens!

    He is your Shepherd, The True Vine, and you are His branches. And I shall surely prune every branch which grows in Him, that it may bear fruit in accordance with His likeness. Yet to all those who say, “Here I am, I also grow from The Vine”, who yet continue to cast off My Commandments and refuse My words spoken to this generation...

    Thus says The Lord: You are all liars! A malignancy, growing where you should not! You shall be cut out and thrown into the fire! Behold, the wrath of The Lamb is coming!... Did you think I would stay silent during the time appointed?! I shall set the heavens on fire and shake the foundations of the Earth, and stir up the seas! For I am a jealous God and great in power!

    Peoples of the Earth, stop breaking My Commandments, and blaspheming My name and the name I have given My Son! You shall not associate His name with sin, nor shall you honor Him with pagan rituals and polluted traditions, lest I reject you as I had rejected the pagans who were before you!... His name shall only be for a song on your lips, a sweet-smelling savor.

    I shall speak plainly, so those slow to understanding may hear, though their ears are dull and their eyes are dim: These modern holidays, Christmas, Easter and Halloween, are an abomination in the eyes of The Lord God Almighty! Therefore I shall destroy all pagan traditions, even every perverse holiday of men!... Behold! I shall wipe them from the face of the whole Earth, on that day! FOR I AM THE LORD, AND I AM COMING DOWN TO MAKE A SWIFT END!... And no more shall you break My Commandments, and revel in sin, in The Son’s name.

    Behold! My countenance has turned against you! Says The Lord of Hosts.

    For you have blasphemed the name of Christ!...

    You and your detestable idols! Your false worship!

    Your misuse of My name and The Christ’s!...

    Your vanities, your greed,

    Your envies, your lusts,

    Your drunkenness,

    Your gluttonous appetites...

    Your fornications!...

    Your false witnessing,

    Lying to your children...

    Your covetousness, your thefts...

    And your murders! Even causing many to destroy themselves!...

    BEHOLD! ALL YOU DO IS ADULTERY AGAINST YOUR GOD!

    Have I not given you Holy Days, in which you were to honor My Son? Yet you forget them all, even the seventh day of each week, which you were to remember and keep holy. For I, The Lord, do not change... What do all these traditions of men have to do with Me?! And why do you them in The Son’s name?! Give the gift of His name, for by His name alone are you saved! There is no other!

    Stop these vain babblings therefore! You speak these things in ignorance of the Truth! Shut your mouths! Cease from all this blasphemy!... Be silent before your God, and speak to Me in spirit.

    Know you not, that you have all become as the pagan and the heathen, by which all your holidays have their origins? Abomination! This world has seduced you, and the harlot has led you into temptation by her false witness!... Behold! She shall be left utterly desolate and naked! Her flesh shall be eaten and consumed by fire! She shall be destroyed under judgment! Crushed beneath the feet of The Holy One of Israel! Broken because of her iniquities!... And put to death because of her denial of the Truth, which she had replaced with the many cups of her fornications!... Thus she shall surely drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation!

    Thus says The Lord God: One Commandment broken are all Commandments broken; one sin, reveled in My name, are all sins accounted to you; one sin, repented in The Christ’s name, all are forgiven you. For I know your hearts, My children, and I know whether or not you have become fully converted in spirit... You can not lie to your God.

    Come to Me therefore, in all truth and supplication,

    By Him who I had sent to you in Truth...

    Being The Truth Absolute, utterly void of darkness...

    HE IS THE LIGHT!...

    By Him shall you walk into life!

    HE IS THE WAY!...

    The only name under Heaven,

    By which you must be saved!...

    Walk in Him, and you shall find Me.

    5 months ago Ian Howarth responded:
    Thanks for this Pete. I am sure it is on the right lines.

    Just a couple of points/questions:

    1. While agreeing absolutely about the need to equip the ministry of the whole people of God, is there still a place for full-time (residential?) ministerial training? I feel there has to be, because some work situations are not compatible with part-time training. (although perhaps we ought to investigate more schemes like the Graduate Training Programme for teachers, where people train on the job.)

    2. For us in the South East the regional idea is not working. London is really a region in itself, but leaves those of us on the fringes behind. For this area of the country the regional thing needs to be thought through very carefully or we could get very isolated.

    5 months ago Mary Everitt responded:
    Pete & Gabs directed me to your response. Excellent! I have been advocating for months and months that "them up there" sit in their ivory towers contemplating moving things around on a chessboard and that the results of those contemplations bear no relation at all to grass roots Methodism working in local churches keeping things going week on week and doing their utmost to spread the word in their own local communities. I wrote to the Meth Rec on this very subject in July, and note that letters are now appearing saying exactly the same thing.
    5 months ago Pete Phillips responded:
    Pete Phillips
    Thanks for your comments - generally in agreement. I note this is also the case on Twitter and Facebook with a number of people saying they have made similar responses.

    We'll have to wait n see, now.

    Pete

    5 months ago David Wynd responded:
    David Wynd
    Good stuff Pete. Some great recommendations here, would love to see some do them taken seriously in the review.
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